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从 24 到 1 再到 5 :YC 不再投 Crypto,但 Crypto 没有消失(转)
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我在Crypto行业待了六七年,近两年同时深入AI赛道,常驻硅谷。因为同时在两个圈子里,一个很明显的体感是:硅谷主流圈子里,Crypto这个词越来越少被提起,但Crypto做的事越来越多地被用到。
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我想从AI这边带一些信号回来,供Crypto从业者参考。
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这种错位在YC身上表现得最明显。: |9 s. F- A* U3 J, g6 d$ U" f% i
z& E |, W# t' aYC Winter 2026刚刚公布,149家公司里有5家和Crypto相关。这个数字不高,但如果你拉一下历史数据,会发现这5家背后藏着一个很清晰的故事。5 x: A$ l9 e: i; r4 m# }
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YC从2014年开始投Crypto项目,到现在一共投了177家。我把每个批次的数量拉出来,变化很直观:
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2018-2019年,每批3-7家,稳步爬坡。2020年,每批5-7家,开始提速。2021年,直接跳到每批13-15家。2022年到了顶峰——Winter一个批次投了24家,Summer投了20家,一年投了44家Crypto公司。/ L u: O# [/ d4 ~
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2023年还有每批10-13家,撑了一年。2024年开始崩——Winter 7家、Fall 4家、Summer直接掉到1家。一整个夏天,YC只投了1家Crypto公司。6 N$ ^& `6 v+ U8 B3 [4 E
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2025年Winter短暂反弹到10家,但紧接着Spring和Summer又掉到每批只有2家。
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如果你是Crypto从业者,看到"从1回到5"可能会觉得是回暖信号。但如果你去看这5家到底在做什么,你会发现它们和2022年那24家几乎是两个物种。- P8 W1 {7 \; F0 `( Z
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2026年这5家在做什么?稳定币存款API、跨境新银行、交易执行引擎、AI Agent支付网关、注意力交易所。 q- u9 w$ z+ q$ K
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没有一家在做链,没有一家在做协议,没有一家在做任何你能叫得出名字的传统"Crypto赛道"。
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这不是回暖,这是换血。& R: ^6 Y) ] `
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Unifold,纽约团队,做Crypto存款的Stripe。一套API SDK,让任何App用不到10行代码接入跨链、跨Token的链上存款。联合创始人Timothy Chung之前做过Streambird(钱包即服务,后来被MoonPay收购变成了MoonPay Wallets),在Polymarket和Instabase也待过。另一位创始人Hau Chu毕业于康奈尔科技学院(Cornell Tech)。这是一个典型的开发者工具生意——用户不需要知道底层是Crypto。
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SpotPay,旧金山团队,基于稳定币的跨境新银行。CTO Thomas之前在Google,是Brex的第4号工程师。CEO Zsika也是Google出身,斯坦福MBA(Stanford MBA),在加勒比和拉美长大,亲身经历过跨境汇款有多痛苦。产品很直接:一个账户搞定海外收款、本地支付、全球消费(有实体卡)、储蓄生息。底层跑稳定币,但前端就是一个Fintech App,和Crypto没有任何视觉关系。
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这三家的共同点很明确:Crypto是管道,不是卖点。
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Orthogonal——AI Agent花钱的时候,会用Crypto
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创始人Christian Pickett之前在Coinbase做支付,还在Vercel待过。Bera Sogut在Google做过reCAPTCHA和Maps APIs,在Amazon Robotics也待过,两次ACM ICPC(国际大学生程序设计竞赛)世界总决赛选手。
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他们要解决的问题是这样的:现在AI Agent越来越多,这些Agent需要调用各种付费API来完成任务。但Agent没有信用卡,没有银行账户,没法像人一样走注册-绑卡-付款的流程。目前的做法是开发者预先给Agent充值或绑自己的API key,Agent少的时候能凑合,但当成千上万个Agent需要自主调用数百个付费服务时,这套体系撑不住。 |
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感觉确实是这样,AI风头正盛,但底层逻辑很多还是Crypto那一套 |
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懂了,原来不是没戏了,是悄悄藏进AI里继续干大事了,这波操作真6 |
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